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	<description>She'd much prefer to read a good book</description>
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		<title>By: marilyn</title>
		<link>http://www.susanhatedliterature.net/2007/06/28/tt-23/#comment-13741</link>
		<dc:creator>marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If by challenging he means really hard to understand and lacking any plot... he/she is right about me. I am too old to waste time reading anything that doesn't make me happy on some level and fiction that doesn't make me happy is often what others think would be good for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If by challenging he means really hard to understand and lacking any plot&#8230; he/she is right about me. I am too old to waste time reading anything that doesn&#8217;t make me happy on some level and fiction that doesn&#8217;t make me happy is often what others think would be good for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Fence</title>
		<link>http://www.susanhatedliterature.net/2007/06/28/tt-23/#comment-13737</link>
		<dc:creator>Fence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Misslionheart, I haven't read PS I Love You, I actually haven't read much chick lit stuff recently. I have heard it is quite readable, but all the hype put me off when it was first released. I know it has died down by now, so I may pick it up.

I think you are right SciFiChick. And we all gave in to the stirring, but a little bit of ranting is fun, once we don't take it too seriously, which i didn't.

&lt;blockquote&gt;This person doesnâ€™t know me or anyone else in this challenge.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Exactly Stephanie, I totally agree.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Reading is its own reward.&lt;/blockquote&gt; You said it Carl. Of course, it can also be its own punishment too ;)

Sally, TV rawks! Well parts of it. Other parts hurt lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Misslionheart, I haven&#8217;t read PS I Love You, I actually haven&#8217;t read much chick lit stuff recently. I have heard it is quite readable, but all the hype put me off when it was first released. I know it has died down by now, so I may pick it up.</p>
<p>I think you are right SciFiChick. And we all gave in to the stirring, but a little bit of ranting is fun, once we don&#8217;t take it too seriously, which i didn&#8217;t.</p>
<blockquote><p>This person doesnâ€™t know me or anyone else in this challenge.</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly Stephanie, I totally agree.</p>
<blockquote><p>Reading is its own reward.</p></blockquote>
<p> You said it Carl. Of course, it can also be its own punishment too <img src='http://www.susanhatedliterature.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sally, TV rawks! Well parts of it. Other parts hurt lol</p>
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		<title>By: sally</title>
		<link>http://www.susanhatedliterature.net/2007/06/28/tt-23/#comment-13735</link>
		<dc:creator>sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Books are overrated!!  TV is the only thing I do!!  ;-)

I consider those lists merely as "suggestions".  A lot of them are puzzling with their choices of was is high art and what is trash...the same could be said about TV, movies, music!

Love the picture!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Books are overrated!!  TV is the only thing I do!!  <img src='http://www.susanhatedliterature.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I consider those lists merely as &#8220;suggestions&#8221;.  A lot of them are puzzling with their choices of was is high art and what is trash&#8230;the same could be said about TV, movies, music!</p>
<p>Love the picture!!</p>
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		<title>By: Carl V.</title>
		<link>http://www.susanhatedliterature.net/2007/06/28/tt-23/#comment-13734</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"but people tend to take a holier-than-thou attitude when it comes to protecting the integrity of their chosen genre."  Actually, Livewire, I truly believe that most people do not do this, only a relative few in comparison to the number of reasonable, rational people who are passionate about the stuff they love but do not act 'superior' as Tuffy put it.  Certainly none of the people that participated in the Once Upon a Time Challenge are that way.  

I think one of the things Tuffy misunderstood was the word 'challenge'.  It wasn't about racing to finish books.  And the contests weren't about rewarding people for reading fast or alot or anything like that.  The contests I held were done so that I had an excuse to get great stuff into people's hands because that is the kind of stuff I love to do. None of us needed motivation to read, we all would have been reading anyway.  This challenge, like most challenges, are about the sense of community.

The only 'contest' that had to do with reading that may be viewed as me pushing what I like off on others was the Gaiman contest.  And hell, I love Neil Gaiman and will take ANY opportunity to encourage people to give his work a try.  

I don't know who it was who said they read A.G. in three days but I feel safe in saying that their motivation for saying so was that they were excited about the book and excited that they were able to get through a fairly long book in such a short period of time...that is what annoys me most about Tuffy's post...she in no way considers the spirit of the individuals involved in this.  She doesn't take the time to consider that the majority of readers of any genre are passionate because they make connections with the books, the books change their lives in small or large ways, the books bring entertainment and joy to them and  they long to share that and make a connection with others.  

I've seen this phenomenon at sci fi and comic conventions.  A divergent group of people get together who may, under other circumstances, never give each other a second look and they share things from deep inside themselves and form such a sense of community all because of something they are 'fan-ish' about.  It is amazing and gives one a wonderful sense of belonging.  That is certainly what my blog is all about, especially with the challenges, and I would assume that is why the rest of you blog as well.  

Tuffy and Trite just don't 'get it'..or more likely they do but choose not to online to get a rise out of people.  Reading is its own reward. All the challenges and contests do is give us a place to focus our attention for awhile while we read so that we can share and bond and enjoy each other's online company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but people tend to take a holier-than-thou attitude when it comes to protecting the integrity of their chosen genre.&#8221;  Actually, Livewire, I truly believe that most people do not do this, only a relative few in comparison to the number of reasonable, rational people who are passionate about the stuff they love but do not act &#8217;superior&#8217; as Tuffy put it.  Certainly none of the people that participated in the Once Upon a Time Challenge are that way.  </p>
<p>I think one of the things Tuffy misunderstood was the word &#8216;challenge&#8217;.  It wasn&#8217;t about racing to finish books.  And the contests weren&#8217;t about rewarding people for reading fast or alot or anything like that.  The contests I held were done so that I had an excuse to get great stuff into people&#8217;s hands because that is the kind of stuff I love to do. None of us needed motivation to read, we all would have been reading anyway.  This challenge, like most challenges, are about the sense of community.</p>
<p>The only &#8216;contest&#8217; that had to do with reading that may be viewed as me pushing what I like off on others was the Gaiman contest.  And hell, I love Neil Gaiman and will take ANY opportunity to encourage people to give his work a try.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know who it was who said they read A.G. in three days but I feel safe in saying that their motivation for saying so was that they were excited about the book and excited that they were able to get through a fairly long book in such a short period of time&#8230;that is what annoys me most about Tuffy&#8217;s post&#8230;she in no way considers the spirit of the individuals involved in this.  She doesn&#8217;t take the time to consider that the majority of readers of any genre are passionate because they make connections with the books, the books change their lives in small or large ways, the books bring entertainment and joy to them and  they long to share that and make a connection with others.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen this phenomenon at sci fi and comic conventions.  A divergent group of people get together who may, under other circumstances, never give each other a second look and they share things from deep inside themselves and form such a sense of community all because of something they are &#8216;fan-ish&#8217; about.  It is amazing and gives one a wonderful sense of belonging.  That is certainly what my blog is all about, especially with the challenges, and I would assume that is why the rest of you blog as well.  </p>
<p>Tuffy and Trite just don&#8217;t &#8216;get it&#8217;..or more likely they do but choose not to online to get a rise out of people.  Reading is its own reward. All the challenges and contests do is give us a place to focus our attention for awhile while we read so that we can share and bond and enjoy each other&#8217;s online company.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!    I read the blog and the comments.   People like this irritate me.    I don't mind opinions.    If you don't like fantasy, so be it.  I don't have a problem with that.  I do have a problem with sweeping generalizations and criticsm though.    This person doesn't know me or anyone else in this challenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!    I read the blog and the comments.   People like this irritate me.    I don&#8217;t mind opinions.    If you don&#8217;t like fantasy, so be it.  I don&#8217;t have a problem with that.  I do have a problem with sweeping generalizations and criticsm though.    This person doesn&#8217;t know me or anyone else in this challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: SciFiChick</title>
		<link>http://www.susanhatedliterature.net/2007/06/28/tt-23/#comment-13732</link>
		<dc:creator>SciFiChick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, the blog drama.. Sounds like the "FanDumb" person just wanted to stirr it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, the blog drama.. Sounds like the &#8220;FanDumb&#8221; person just wanted to stirr it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Nymeth</title>
		<link>http://www.susanhatedliterature.net/2007/06/28/tt-23/#comment-13731</link>
		<dc:creator>Nymeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"His books are fantastic and entertaining and make points about people and culture and society, but never at the expense of the story or characters. That is a feat.!"

Exactly! That is why I love him also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;His books are fantastic and entertaining and make points about people and culture and society, but never at the expense of the story or characters. That is a feat.!&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly! That is why I love him also.</p>
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		<title>By: Misslionheart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misslionheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish I could post an interesting comment about books and authors. Truth is, I am rubbish at reading although I am currently trying to get through 'P.S. I Love You' by Cecelia Ahern. Anyone read it?

Thanks for popping over to Kildare today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I could post an interesting comment about books and authors. Truth is, I am rubbish at reading although I am currently trying to get through &#8216;P.S. I Love You&#8217; by Cecelia Ahern. Anyone read it?</p>
<p>Thanks for popping over to Kildare today!</p>
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		<title>By: Fence</title>
		<link>http://www.susanhatedliterature.net/2007/06/28/tt-23/#comment-13729</link>
		<dc:creator>Fence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl, there is such a difference between not liking a particular book, or art, and giving out about the people who like it. The nicest people can like the strangest stuff. But I'm still waiting on the tentacle porn suggestions ;)

Samulli, "And who the hell is that person to tell me what to goddamn do?" I totally agree. That was my major problem with the post. Hate fantasy books all you want. Just don't tell me I can't enjoy them. And you are totally right, it really isn't worth the effort to get worked up about it :)

Four whole days Livewire! let the pointing and laughing begin ;)

That's odd Kailana, the missing submit button, not that you read fantasy, hope it doesn't happen again.

I must give it a read at some point dew. As I said, I have read some Tepper before, and enjoyed it but I always have to try to ignore the preachiness of it.

You too Danielle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl, there is such a difference between not liking a particular book, or art, and giving out about the people who like it. The nicest people can like the strangest stuff. But I&#8217;m still waiting on the tentacle porn suggestions <img src='http://www.susanhatedliterature.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Samulli, &#8220;And who the hell is that person to tell me what to goddamn do?&#8221; I totally agree. That was my major problem with the post. Hate fantasy books all you want. Just don&#8217;t tell me I can&#8217;t enjoy them. And you are totally right, it really isn&#8217;t worth the effort to get worked up about it <img src='http://www.susanhatedliterature.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Four whole days Livewire! let the pointing and laughing begin <img src='http://www.susanhatedliterature.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That&#8217;s odd Kailana, the missing submit button, not that you read fantasy, hope it doesn&#8217;t happen again.</p>
<p>I must give it a read at some point dew. As I said, I have read some Tepper before, and enjoyed it but I always have to try to ignore the preachiness of it.</p>
<p>You too Danielle</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
		<link>http://www.susanhatedliterature.net/2007/06/28/tt-23/#comment-13728</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn't there more pressing things affecting the world than debating on the value of what people read? I can understand your response to this idiocy. Enjoy whatever YOU want to read, the important thing is to exercise your mind.
Happy TT!
Be well and enjoy the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t there more pressing things affecting the world than debating on the value of what people read? I can understand your response to this idiocy. Enjoy whatever YOU want to read, the important thing is to exercise your mind.<br />
Happy TT!<br />
Be well and enjoy the day.</p>
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