Your Vocabulary Score: A-
Congratulations on your multifarious vocabulary!
You must be quite an erudite person.
A-, I’m a little disappointed. But never mind, I’m sure I’ll get over the shock.
I don’t know if any of you have seen the trailer for The Holiday ? The film itself looks quite crap, Kate Winslet and Cameron Diaz swap houses around Christmas and find romance in their foreign homes. Blah, whatever. The point I want to moan and complain about is the violence.
Not the fact that it occurs. Cause violence on screen is a good thing. Really, it is. I know that if you haven’t seen the trailer you may now be imagining blood and guts and gore, but don’t. This film is rom-com, there aint going to be no bloodbaths. At least I don’t think there will, it’d be a very unexpected ending if there were. No the violence is one scene of Diaz’s character punching her boyfriend because he has revealed that he slept with someone else.
Now, imagine the roles are reversed and boyfriend punches Diaz for sleeping with someone else. Still a funny amusing scene is it? Course not, because men hitting women *fx: Faith as Buffy* is wrong. And naughty. But somehow it has become perfectly acceptable to have women beating up men.
And if I was going to be all serious I’d point out that domestic/spousal abuse happens to both men and women and really isn’t a funny thing. Or I might mention the fact that this sort of scene is, in no way, something that shows men and women as being equal. Instead it points out that women are so weak and unequal that having them use violence is funny.
But I’m not going to go there cause that would require thought, logic and maybe even an argument of some sort. And lets face it, you don’t come here for sensible posts like that, do you?
Well, some of us do.
OK, quick boast. A! I got an A!
Seriously, now, I'm glad you talk about that, because abused husbands and fathers spoilt of their rights are one of the causes I'd be willing to turn into a militant for. It's one of the adverse effects of feminism, I think, that both are forever considered anecdotal.
Having said that, Ed Burns being punched by Miss Diaz, well… I probably wouldn't organize a protest for that one. I know…
Bah. A-… I didn't know what an altruist was, to my everlasting shame. OBVIOUSLY I ain't one.
Hey, Fence, remember the scene in, um, Intermission, I think, when Colin Farrell punched that checkout girl right in the face? Holy Toledo. I think you're right about women's violence against men: I think we resort to it sometimes because we feel unheard and undervalued, and feel we have to make an impression any way we can. Either by hitting, or being a harpy… It's too bad.
Ooh. A minus! Me too.
I've seen the trailer, and basically if somoene traded houses with me so that I could go to Europe and they could come to America, I would never go home. Basically.
In reality some of you may, Kyknoord, but I prefer to go by my made-up reasoning. Life is much more fun this way.
Well you are furrin Anne. And everyone knows that furriners are too smart for their own good.
Kells (I use an s in place of a y seeing as your name usually has a y) I love that scene. See violence working in a shocking yet great way. Unlike this film.
heather Anne, you mean you'd leave your gated paradise to skid in a mini and get chatted up by Jude Law? And stuff your face with carbs? I really don't need to see this film at all do I?
Down with sensible posts!!!
I don't usually get stressed with that kind of inequality with the way men and women are portrayed but it does get annoying sometimes to see fathers villified or made to be completely inept which seems to happen in way too many movies and television shows today.
Well, I am brilliant, so it was bound to happen.
Getting chatted up by Jude Law? Shudder. Ick. It was a horrible trailer, wasn't it?
I'm a pretty angry punchy kind of person when I'm pissed off. But I think if I found out something awful like that the Beloved cheated on me, I'd be too HURT to break his nose. Maybe later, I'd plot revenge but by then cold reality and the possibility of assault charges would probably prevent me.
I always loved that bit in Angel when Buffy popped Angel one for 'comforting' Faith and he popped her right back, causing her to get all upset and "you hit me!", only for him to point out that she hit him first and was quite a bit stronger than him.
I don't particularly like it when people in movies start beating the crap out of people who've done bad things to their loved ones. It's funny in Bridget Jones cos it's such a crap and useless fight but it's not very appealing. Who really wants their fella to break another guy's nose for them?
If a man raises a hand to me he can expect the same back, and then some. But that works both ways, so I generally don't go around hitting men because black eyes are like, soooo unattractive, dontcha think?
Stressed wouldn't really describe me either Carl, I guess it is more that it is a lazy way to try and earn a laugh. As are many instances of bad fathering.
But would it be humorous punching of the nose H?
Terri, totally agree. If someone hits you then you have the right to hit them back (let us not bring up the "cycle of violence"), but that isn't what this trailer is about.
And yes, black eyes aren't among the things you most want to see in anyone.
Snap, I got the same vocab score but a couple of the words I had to guess at.
Yeah, it is sexist. But I'd probably do the same if it were my bf…
A+ you mothers!
A woman hitting a man is not the same thing as a man hitting a woman. I think it's a big mistake to insist the same rules should apply to all. You can't be scientific about morality and that kind of universalism is pernicious. And reprehensible. Like the Amish being subjected to child labour laws that were developed in an entirely different context. Or people objecting to the British police having a union for black members and white members. White people are not oppressed in our society, AS white people.
I agree with William Blake: one law for the ox and the lion is tyranny.
I don't know about you weenie, but I'm well impressed at all our scores :)
So you are saying that it is okay for a woman to punch a man Mal? Interesting.
And of course the Amish should be subject to the same laws as everyone else. Either the law is right, or it isn't. Simple.
I don't think the British police have a union for white members, they have one for everyone. And then the "racial minorities" have one too. Isn't that the way it works?
A woman punching a man is not OK, but it's not as culpable as vice versa. And what about slapping? I can't believe that a woman slapping a man across the face is just the same as a man slapping a woman.
The National Black Police Association, I've just seen on the web, is a union to support black police officers. When I was in England I heard two guys talking to a lady in the bar of a hotel, agreeing how it wasn't right to have a union for black police when you couldn't have one for white police. But I disagree.
Circumstances, groups and individuals are different and the law should respect particularity. I admire exceptions to the law such as exempting Sikh motorcyclists from wearing helmets. And not just law, morality should reflect and protect the diversity of human existence.
There is none for just white officers because history matters.
Anyone punching someone is just the same as someone punching anyone. The physical harm may be greater because some individuals are stronger/weaker than others.
And slapping is different, still wrong, but different. However I'm not talking about slapping, in the trailer it is a punch that is thrown. Not a slap.