He taught me how to wash, fight and pray

 

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  1. Reminds me of that other rather irritating Christian turn of phrase. When something good happens like traffic home after work is free-flowing or something equally insignificant, they say "Thank you Lord" or "I was so blessed with the traffic today"….

    So what about the heathens in the traffic? Was it just dumb luck that they had a pleasant journey home as well?

    I mean, I get giving thanks for the big stuff, like passing exams or births or recovering from illness, but why the need to see every little instance of good luck as a blessing from on high?

    Bugs the crap out of me it does.

  2. Hey FM, shouldn't you be baby-watching :)

    It is a little strange for me to complain, because I suppose thank god is a saying we all use at some stage. I know I do. But do I actually mean thank god? I don't think so. More, itsn't it a good thing.

    But these phrases were said with belief, which also makes it hard to criticise, because obviously yer man believes in god, and that god helped him. And fair enough, it is just the way it seems to suggest that he thought he was better than other people who didn't believe, and deserved to be okay. Which probably wasn't what he meant at all.
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  3. I obviously don't have enough faith then cos I always get stuck in traffic.
    That just doesn't seem fair. D'ya think there are more believers on the Southside than the Northside? And what happens when two believers meet at an intersection? Who gets right of way?
    OK I think I'll quit now before I get struck by lightning or something.

  4. To me its all about perception. I realize that some comments are made that are tongue in cheek. There's absolutely nothing wrong with thanking God for anything good that happens to you. It doesn't mean the person is inferring that God only helps them but it does mean that they feel the need to acknowledge God for even the little things that they are thankful for.

    (Provided you believe in God, otherwise this conversation is a moot point) God does indeed help everyone in a general way…there's a scripture to this point saying that God allows it to rain on both the evil and the good (an agricultural lesson about general good coming to everyone) but there is an aspect of relationship with God that involves faith. Its not about putting God to the test, its much deeper and has to do with one's spiritual connection to God. Belief and faith are a major part of this.

    People have a tendency of saying things that can be taken as smug or exclusive…kind of like the example that you gave of what that guy said…but I still think some of that has to do with perception. When God and politics come into the equation I think we all have a tendency to get very defensive about what people are saying and tend to read more negative stuff into the text of the conversation than we would otherwise.

    That's my opinion anyway. :)

  5. Terri, it is simple really. Both believer's faiths take on corporeal form and "do battle". The winner is the person with the strongest faith.

    Carl, it does have a lot to do with perception. But I also think that some, not all, religous people have a tendency to be smug about it. As though god will help them at everyone else's expense.
    You know the type who think they can't lose because god is on their side. That's the sort I'm really talking about, not really the people who may be total believers but don't feel the need to push anyone else toward religion.
    And, in retrospect I think I was a little unfair to Mr. Bodyshock, because he was undergoing a life a death situation so obviously he'd be hoping and praying that god would help him out, and use anything at all to persuade himself that things weren't going to turn out bad.
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  6. I agree Fence. I think what bothers me is that often we don't take into account that when a person is being smug, or lets be honest: being an ass, that it isn't because of their religion or God…they were that way before they became a believer. Now with some people their beliefs give them the ammunition with which to be a more prominent jerk but the perception that I see in the media is that somehow it is their beliefs that are the sole cause for their negative behavior. While I do believe that faith, if a person allows it, can have positive effects on their personality I also believe that many people don't get beyond a surface understanding of their beliefs to allow it to make true positive change to their lives. Instead they glom on to the ideas or principles of their religion and them spout them off everywhere they go. These are the people that don't have a true understanding of how their behavior actually puts forth an image opposite to what they are professing to believe. None of us are perfect representatives for God, or for the human race, or whatever but some are defintely worse representatives than others. What bothers me is when those people are held up as the example as what it means to be Christians while many 'true' Christians, for lack of a better word, lead quiet, positive, life-changing existences and have to deal with the fact that our representatives in the world are often the flakes that we have nothing in common with.

    Good post, good thoughts all around. Sorry to prattle on so.

  7. Prattle away all you like, makes for interesting reading.

    Generally I think that the more a person proclaims themselves to be a Christian, the less christian they actually are.

    Was watching Trading Spouses last night, where one "religous" fella, who believes in the literal bible, said that the bible says "if you do not accept Jesus as your saviour then you can go to hell" Which I found an interesting attitute to have.
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